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  • محمد أمين
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    my dear brother soum ,

    I reall was waiting for you to discuss with us this issue , and I was eager to hear your point of view , because you are living the moment there in the lovely Iraq , may allah help you my brother and help all our brothers and families in Iraq .



    I agree with you in all what you've said my brother , I can imagin how horrible the life there , being afraid of any bomb could explode any minute is something really worrying and horrible , and terrorests who see in the iraqi soil a good soil to plant there terrorestic actions , and that's all because of the american occupation and their unjustice actions there

    I've a question my brother , an An iraqi citizen , how do you think the Iraqi people should fight iraq? , what is the best way?

    I'm waiting for ur answer my brother , and I'll be back

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  • سوم
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    hello my brothers sorry i wasnt with u in this conversation because i was busy with thanks to put this issue for discussions
    as u know am iraqi man so my opinion will represent what i saw every day not what u saw on the news really my friends there are plans for this voilence there are hiden hands that move this play but unfortunetly the only victems are the iraqi peoples
    i tell u what happen here we are aprisoners in our home we afried from the roads ,the cars &every place we go we feel that thereis abomb or some on thatwill explosive him self in order to make america go away from here just astupid that wash his brian by money or tell him that is the only way to fight america by kill 1000 of his brother for 1 or nothings from amercans
    in fact where is amercan in market or in hospital or or or u can imagen
    there is no jehad here just aterrorism except in some time when we here that some one suicid &kill only amercan as happen in almosel i think u here about it and some other littel places
    i donot know what happen in the future but am depressed from this misrable situation here ,i dont trust the new covernment or american because all of them are thivers or use us for their purpuse
    we lose our men ,there is magration of our doctor,ingenerist even workers more than was in the past.
    so we are anarea for fight not for jehad &this is the america was want
    my friends keep yours eyes on your contery because usa will not stop by it self .
    with may best wishes to u 2
    and to all may arab contery to live in piece

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  • محمد أمين
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    Don't worry my dear brother , Take all your time in Exams , and from me >>> I wish you all the Good luck

    I'm waiting for you to continue the conversation

    with my best wishes

    Mohamed

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  • ام اي عزيزي
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    The agreement comes now

    The same words you mentioned it

    I was thinking of .



    Yes I were inclined a little bit to AlQaeda since she is fighting in Afghanistan and evacuated the Russians from our Muslim lands but, when she doesn't care for who is going to be killed I stopped that feeling.



    I totally agree with you !!



    About Jihad don't you think it is legal now in Iraq

    I want to talk about sth ..

    America really disparage our identity as Muslims & Arabs

    She comes out from that home and entered this home with no Permission AS she thinks she is the most powerful country in the world

    No body can prevent her from doing what she wants.

    So, this made a provocation for some of the people whom have magnanimity and go to fight this little rats who called marines and try to remove them from our dear "precious" land in Iraq

    " why I said little rats"

    Because,

    Basically, American Soldiers aren't like the Russians ones"

    I will elaborate this when I get some more times !



    I can see the end of US in Iraq

    And I hope so









    Well I have just found some times to write these short sentences

    But I promise if I have ended my Med-Term Exams

    I will immediately

    come back

    Hang on

    my best friend

    and

    please bear with me





    I quote this for you:



    Imagine those " rats" who called Marines

    IN IRAQ

    Like this



    His palms are sweaty, knees weak, arms are heavy
    There’s vomit on his sweater already, mom’s spaghetti
    He’s nervous, but on the service he looks calm and ready
    To drop bombs, but he keeps on forgetting…


    MA3ZIZY

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  • محمد أمين
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    Great you accepted , and I'm sure we are gonna agree with each other inshallah

    well I think that AlQaeda takes Alzarkawy as a tool to send it's wrong thoughts and acts inside the Iraqi society , Also the American Occupation helps them to appear as Mujahideen , but they aren't , of course there are Real mujahideen in Iraq , but those who call Hijaking and slaying "Jihad" are absolutely mistaken , What make me depressed is that there Arab people who still happy with Osama Ben Laden and his terrorestic Organization , Islam was never been like that , Jihad has it's ways , and not any barbaric ways should be called as Jihad , that is my poin of view , so what do you think my friend

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  • ام اي عزيزي
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    you are right my friend

    but i guess this issue is really complicated and it needs more to be listen to reason so we hope we come up with a good agreement


    i accept the challenge


    !


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  • محمد أمين
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    لا يمكن أبدا أخي الحبيب أن يتحول أختلافنا السياسي إلا كره لا قدر الله , فقبل أي شيئ نحن أخوة و لا يمكن أبدا أن يتحول هذا الحوار إلي كره أو ضيق لا سمح الله

    و أنا أسف علي رواية الأية بالمعني , فقد أخذني الحوار و لم أنتبه , و ألف شكر أخي الحبيب علي المتابعة في الحوار و الشكر موصول للغالي سوم , و أفكر في أن أفتح نقاشا بخصوص "العضوية الدائمة في مجلس الأمن ... هل ستتزيد شيئا للعرب و المسلمين أم لا؟" في المنتدي السياسي قريبا حتي يكون الحوار موسعا أكثر و نتعرف علي بقية الأراء في المنتدي , أما الأن هنا فسنبدأ حوارا جديدا و لمدة أسبوع -أو أكثر أن أحتاج الحوار- عن العراق و سوف أستكمل باللغة الأنجليزية

    I'd like to start a conversation about the Hijakings and sucidal attacks -that's How I'd like to call it- , because there is a big difference between the real jihad and the terrorism , I don't deny that there are right Jihad in Iraq , but also there are real terrorism made by Alzarkawy and others , so Our Conversation this week will be about this attacks that kills alot of Iraqis before it kills Americans , and the reason of this phenomenon


    I'll be back with my point of view later inshallah


    with my best regards

    Mohamed

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  • ام اي عزيزي
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    السلام عليكم
    Will you tolked too much about the Veto ?
    rationally, does the Veto represents any faith or any logic aspects
    it is a "game" my friend
    it has nothing to do with any kind of fair keeping in mind the Palestinian issues each time the veto is used against them while almost all the world agreed on the idea that Israel is an occupied country !!
    therefore, Vietnam asked for no Veto from China she defend her land by her blood by herflesh!!
    I remind an effectual words by "Shakespeare" in one of his plays
    i guess it is "Macbeth"
    when he says:
    " I will fight till my bone , my flesh be hacked give my armor"
    you see she fight she doesn't cry for china or Russia for a help !
    well ! the veto is a game again

    America used the Veto in order to hide her ugly face of

    The "super power"
    She can't tells the whole world about this but, she plays it in the real world openly she can't fight the whole world but each time she fears she returns to the Security Council to say that the world has a judge it is not a jungle law

    When she feel dangerous ?

    Don't you see it in iraq !

    The first one who called for law is the first one who breaks it

    And this one is

    US

    The Super power as she pretend!
    لله در من مرغ انف امريكا في العراق !
    While we as Muslims we don’t believe In any kind of super power but Allah Alone .
    ارفض انك تتبع الكذاب إلى باب الدار
    لأنه بصراحه لايوجد لهذا الدار من باب إنما هي حلقه مفرغه تدور فيها وانت الطرف الأضعف؟؟


    ثم اخي الأيه هي كالتالي " أن تنصروا الله ينصركم "

    انتبه القران لا يجوز روايته بالمعنى !



    وبصراحه أنا في غاية السعاده انني امارس انجليزيتي مع رجل عظيم مثلك ؟



    وعن تغيير الموضوع فانا اخاف والله أن تحدثت معك كثيرا في السياسه أن تكرهني ؟

    الا أن تكون صبوراً !



    The next subject is

    On the hot issue in Iraq



    I'm waiting for a specific subject on iraq to discuss with you

    You choose !

    bye now !



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  • محمد أمين
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    اضيف في الأساس بواسطة ام اي عزيزي
    Hi again brother…










    Your words disprove each other my friend !




    you say:
    we can use what it called "veto" in order to prevent the war against any country, neighbor country you mean that’s OK


    listen what you have said next:

    When America decided to give Iraq a military strike



    !
    !
    !
    where is the UN's law that you mentioned before ? my friend didn't you say it is illegal war ?





    Don't ask about the Veto the Veto is another entirely discussion?



    You recognize and admit the UN as a judge or controller for the world ?

    This is a big lie I mean the UN


    Personally I don't know what is the UN ! and actually didn't see it before is she sth to eat !!


    ha ha ha !







    But, I respect you Muhammed and I talk to you again



    What exactly the UN done for the world so far?
    Or say more specifically for the Muslims countries ?



    I can answer you?



    She does nothing !





    From Palestine to Somalia to the Bosnia and the Hirsik to Afghanistan and finally Iraq?









    My friend

    I want to say to you that the UN is a mean for the US to cover it's horribleness





    The US invades Iraq in the name of weapons of mass destruction.


    And the UN "
    what it should be the supreme court or International Court of Justice"

    done nothing for Iraq while she totally disagree the war on Iraq?






    Instead she sits down and watch what will happen?





    More than that the UN itself is corrupt and you know about the grand son of

    "Kooofeee Anan"




    what he has did for his grand father?
    Its so funny !






    That you want me to believe that the UN is a neutral institution



    NO




    my friend she is not !


    She worshiped America

    And she can do nothing for anyone From a responsible point of view


    She can do like the poor countries

    "we condemned the war "

    we condemned America" "

    We condemned

    We condemned

    We condemned

    We condemned

    We condemned

    We condemned

    We condemned

    We condemned

    We condemned







    Till the next morning

















    You say
    I know that being a permanent Member in the Security Council of course is not everything but we shouldn't be ignored any more,





    I say
    The ignorance does not mean to be have no seat in the UN ?

    The ignorance is as follow :

    test ban

    Weapon ban

    Economy ban

    And you know the rest…





    You say

    We've to have a word on this world,







    I say
    you can easily have words not only one word ! if you persuade the muslims countries to come United

    for the good for Muslims

    Not for Football or other Games !



    You say
    and if we didn't use this Chance to be a permanent member to decide what happen in the world ,





    I say
    wake up friend we are at the end of history and you want us to have a seat at the UN



    You say

    and again I know that it is not the only solution for our problem ,









    I say
    So would you please mention other solution not a un resolution

    Cause I'm sick of it





















    See you again



    Brother !




    Hey My dear brother M A 3azizy , I really appreciate your what you said , and I'm gonna answer you my friend


    first you asked why didn't the UN made a move when USA invaded Iraq .

    My answer is that the UN has become very weak lately , you said that and I'm totall agree with you , beside there was no Vito about invading Iraq , so in the formal point of view of the UN , there was no need to stop that War because it hadn't been discussed in the security council , besides also if it was discussed in the security council that America should stop its war on Iraq , of courseAmerica will use the Vito and it would continue the War , that was what I mean , America in the two Cases would continue the war whatever the security council accepted or not , because it has the Vito power and if we -the Muslim world- have a permenant member in the security council , we could be able to stop making the Un as a cover to the US shameful acts to us Muslims ,



    you said that America is taking the UN as a cover , and yes I agree with you , but If an arab country for example had a permenant membership , and then when America decides to invade a muslim country , and then we used the vito , naturally the whole UN will stand against USA -even if it was just by words only- , this Time America will have no cover , and it's ugly face will appear to the world , then it's influence will be decreased in the world .


    and My dear friend tell me something , if we leave this subject and don't think about it , What do you think about what we will get when japan or Brazil or southafrica become a permenant member ?! , are they gonna add something to the Arab world , of course not , we are now in a terrible situation which lead us to a very depressed misery feeling , we have to find any straw to hang on , or we will simply sink , I think we should be optemistic to anything and not to lose hope at all , America says that the Security council is the only way to give fair and right decisions on the world so
    خلينا ورا الكداب لحد باب الدار

    lets see what if we become a permenant member , what will happen after that .



    and finally my brother you're talking about the Arab Unity , I think become just two words without a meaning , Itis like a dream which absolutely won't come true , do you know why? ,? , because are not following Qura'an or Sunnah very well ,

    أنصروا الله ينصركم

    we have to return To the Qura'an and the Sunnah of Mohammed (pbuh)
    in order to search for unity , without that , Idon't think we are gonna unite at all



    thanks so much brothers 3azizy and Soum for this smart , quite Conversation

    and finally I say الأختلاف في الرأي لا يفسد في الود قضية



    so my dear brothers , If you wanna add any thing inthis subject , Go ahead , or if you like to open a new subject , Go ahead too


    with my best regards to you

    Mohamed

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  • سوم
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    thank u my freind m a azezy u say what i want to say & u cooling my heart by this word &i say good luke to my brother mohamed & i wish to found another dream that accepted in our real time with my best wishes to u

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  • ام اي عزيزي
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    Hi again brother…



    Your words disprove each other my friend !

    you say:
    we can use what it called "veto" in order to prevent the war against any country, neighbor country you mean that’s OK

    listen what you have said next:

    When America decided to give Iraq a military strike

    !
    !
    !
    where is the UN's law that you mentioned before ? my friend didn't you say it is illegal war ?





    Don't ask about the Veto the Veto is another entirely discussion?
    You recognize and admit the UN as a judge or controller for the world ?

    This is a big lie I mean the UN
    Personally I don't know what is the UN ! and actually didn't see it before is she sth to eat !!

    ha ha ha !







    But, I respect you Muhammed and I talk to you again



    What exactly the UN done for the world so far?
    Or say more specifically for the Muslims countries ?



    I can answer you?



    She does nothing !





    From Palestine to Somalia to the Bosnia and the Hirsik to Afghanistan and finally Iraq?









    My friend

    I want to say to you that the UN is a mean for the US to cover it's horribleness





    The US invades Iraq in the name of weapons of mass destruction.
    And the UN "
    what it should be the supreme court or International Court of Justice"
    done nothing for Iraq while she totally disagree the war on Iraq?






    Instead she sits down and watch what will happen?

    More than that the UN itself is corrupt and you know about the grand son of
    "Kooofeee Anan"
    what he has did for his grand father?
    Its so funny !






    That you want me to believe that the UN is a neutral institution



    NO

    my friend she is not !
    She worshiped America

    And she can do nothing for anyone From a responsible point of view


    She can do like the poor countries

    "we condemned the war "

    we condemned America" "

    We condemned

    We condemned

    We condemned

    We condemned

    We condemned

    We condemned

    We condemned

    We condemned

    We condemned







    Till the next morning

















    You say
    I know that being a permanent Member in the Security Council of course is not everything but we shouldn't be ignored any more,





    I say
    The ignorance does not mean to be have no seat in the UN ?

    The ignorance is as follow :

    test ban

    Weapon ban

    Economy ban

    And you know the rest…





    You say

    We've to have a word on this world,







    I say
    you can easily have words not only one word ! if you persuade the muslims countries to come United

    for the good for Muslims

    Not for Football or other Games !



    You say
    and if we didn't use this Chance to be a permanent member to decide what happen in the world ,





    I say
    wake up friend we are at the end of history and you want us to have a seat at the UN



    You say

    and again I know that it is not the only solution for our problem ,









    I say
    So would you please mention other solution not a un resolution

    Cause I'm sick of it









    See you again



    Brother !


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  • محمد أمين
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    Welcome brother soum with us in this conversation and first I'd like to salut you and all of our brave Iraqi brothers who are fighting everyday in Iraq for their freedom


    and also thank you so much brother M A 3azizy for your replay ,


    so , I'm sure that everyone had heared that there are plans in the un that the no. of the permenant members in the security council will be increased soon , and we also heared that some countries decided to be a permenant members like Brazil , japan , Southafrica and Egypt and others , so don't you think for example if America tried to ivade venzuela , and then Brazil used the vito in the security council -that's if brzil entered the security council as a permenant member and if the relations between it and venzuela are good- then naturally all the UN will stand with the Vito side and that is what the law of the UN Says , and then America will appear the bad one to World and that will make pressure on her


    but let's think back to the War on Iraq , when America decided to give Iraq a military strike , who used the Vito to prevent this illegal war ? no one ,but also alot of nations participated in that WAR too ,

    I know that being a permenant Member in the security council of course is not everything but but we shouldn't be ignored any more , we've to have a word on this world , and if we didn't use this Chance to be a permenant member to decide what happen in the world , we will be living in What we in forever , and again I know that itis not the only solution for our problem , but at least itis better than nothing.......

    with my best regards to you

    Mohamed

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  • سوم
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    hello my brother am sorry to depress u but i think that ur dream will not came to life because we are saperated so we are the best victem &there are no benefit from be apermenant member in UN because it the tool of amarica for invat other countery so if u become amember u will be one of the white house men u get it ? &am sorry to tell u that but truelly america is the monister of our century so how to fight amonister with aknife&eachof fighter in saperat wourld het each other ,am iraqi man &i tell what will happen if we will still like what are we then say good bye to every arab country so am sorry agian for that sad view but it the true

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  • ام اي عزيزي
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    Very well friend but, do you think that this is the only reason ?

    That we don't have a permanent membership !





    Will I disagree


    the idea is beyond that !

    I think the American don’t care for the UN at all didn't you watch

    Peters ghali in the programme of witness

    بطرس غالي في شاهد على العصر

    When the secretary-general of UN confesses

    That America has a great influence on the UN and the UN can never disagree with America nor they can try say NO

    After that how do you want to work or even admit about sth called

    The UN




    My dear brother !



    You are right that what it called Israel has a powerful influence on America but that because Israel are being adopted by the US

    In other words Israel is a state of the United States



    About the membership look at Syria what a pressures on her now because of the membership you want.



    I just want to tell you about this verse:

    "ولن ترضى عنك اليهود ولا النصارى حتى تتبع ملتهم"

    So what ever you do what ever you say nothing can stop America

    Except that we return to the sunna and the Qura'an



    Anyway I glad to hear from you please read every thing and answer me

    Point after point OK



    I'm waiting

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  • محمد أمين
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    Finally I found someone to discuss with him politics on here in English


    welcome my Dear friend 3azizy ,

    well , yes Muslims were treated badly so much since the foundation of the UN or the secretary council , but that's because there is no a permenant member there who has a vito right supported the Muslims or the arabs , for example Israel , Usa has been supported Israel for decades , Usa used Vito more than one time to support Israel , but look at us -muslims- , who used Vito to support us ??... England ! or China or Russia !!! , we need to have an arab permenant Memeber to support us there , so that when Usa decides to invade a country , an arabic one without a right , we can stand and say Vito , , so that's why I wanna Egypt or any Arab or muslim country become amember in the security counil

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  • ام اي عزيزي
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    i hope it a great idea and i'm afraid i misbehave by this connection

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  • ام اي عزيزي
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    اضيف في الأساس بواسطة محمد أمين
    Hello Global Tourist


    Actually My Political dream is that Egypt become a permenant member in the security council , that will give Egypt and te Arab world a big position in the world , and that will reduce the american influence on the arab world




    that's my dream

    and thanx for the nice question

    will dear muhammed i disagree with you this time i don't believe in the security council nor i trust them at all !!

    why ?

    what it happened to the muslims across the centuries can answer you my closest
    friend

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  • محمد أمين
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    Hello Global Tourist


    Actually My Political dream is that Egypt become a permenant member in the security council , that will give Egypt and te Arab world a big position in the world , and that will reduce the american influence on the arab world




    that's my dream

    and thanx for the nice question

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  • السائح العالمي
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    To all the dear friends and guests to this wonderful forum, I salute you.

    I'm Al Sa'eh Al A'lami (Global Tourist)... a media professional in Palestine. I work as a freelance journalist and an entrepreneur on my freetime, and from my work with several media agencies I'm involved in policy a lot, and it's always thrilling to three those who make our policy in action!!

    I would like to start by asking each one of you WHAT is your political dream? I don't mean that in common (like world peace...etc). For example, my political dream is to sit at the Oval Office (in the White House), even for 10 minutes

    So, what do you dream and related to politics!!

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  • محمد أمين
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    اضيف في الأساس بواسطة انشودة القمر
    Hi brother mohamed


    A good idea

    though its so hard to discuss
    political topics in Arabic
    I wonder how it'll gone in English
    lol , I agree it is difficult in arabic , but u're gonna like it in english


    this section will be activated very soon

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