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    عضو متميز

    • Jan 2005
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    林黛玉成风尘女 日本热衷恶搞他国

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    日本恶搞他国名著已造成越来越大的风波和反响。原版格林童话中的血腥描写让很多读者反 感,对中国名著的恶搞更激起了许多人的不满和愤怒。《红楼梦》里的林黛玉被某日本游戏 商塑造成风尘女子;《西游记》里的唐僧和孙悟空在日本某电视剧中谈起了恋爱。新华网2 月13日报道:近来,日本文化界恶搞他国名著已造成越来越大的风波和反响。原版格林童 话中的血腥描写让很多读者反感,对中国名著的恶搞更激起了许多人的不满和愤怒。比如, 《红楼梦》里的林黛玉被某日本游戏商塑造成风尘女子;《西游记》里的唐僧和孙悟空居然 在日本某电视剧中谈起了恋爱;《三国演义》则更倒霉,被众多情色动漫和黄色游戏拿去当 素材不说,在即将推出的电游《恋姬无双》里,干脆从刘备关羽张飞到孙权曹操董卓,统统 被塑造成风骚女子的形象。事情的原委到底是怎样的?面对日本人的恶搞我们究竟该怎样做 呢?
    什么是恶搞

    恶搞一词起源于日本,原词“kuso”意即“粪便”。在恶搞者看来,kuso不是简单 的搞恶,而是对偶像和经典情节的颠覆、重构,是通过对人们耳熟能详的人物、事件重新演 绎、重新解释或重新安排命运,以达到吸引读者的目的。

    正因为如此,恶搞的对象必然是经典、名著、名人、热点,是大众本已熟知和感兴趣的东西 。最常见的恶搞恰是针对市场热卖的主流文化产品。因为这些产品的情节和人物耳熟能详, 关注面广,恶搞起来看客好懂好记好笑,很容易一炮走红。如果不拿这些当作恶搞的对象, 就产生不了预期的效果。正如一个常举的例子,恶搞者添小胡子的画笔必然伸向《蒙娜丽莎 》,而不是一幅普通的仕女画。
    市场,所以他们的动漫、游戏、音像制品,常常需要从其他国家的文化中汲取素材。从格 林童话到爱尔兰民间传说,从美国牛仔到希腊神话,从上古传奇到科幻故事,都是日本文化 产品中非常常见的主题。如著名的光荣游戏,就采用了大量中国、西欧和美国的背景剧本和 人物。甚至被尊为经典的日本严肃电影也不能幸免,如黑泽明的力作《乱》就剥取了莎翁《 李尔王》的故事框架。

    既然主流产品的主题经常是外国名著经典,以它们为对象的恶搞类产品自然概莫能外。日本 动漫瞄准中国名著历史悠久,动漫大师手冢治虫在上世纪50年代就推出过《我的孙悟空》 。恶搞的“受害者”也远不止于中国古典名著:希腊罗马史诗里的神仙被恶搞成情色动漫游 戏主角固然司空见惯。日本历史上的英雄人物也不能幸免:据说私生活严肃的战国“军神” 上杉谦信被塑造成美少女已不是一回两回;大名鼎鼎的织田信长同样免不了被日本一最新游 戏歪曲成猥亵男甚至魔人。至于《源氏物语》不受青睐,恰恰是因为它原本就有大量暧昧描 写,让恶搞者失去了“想象和创作的空间”。


    我们得明白,这些恶搞者通常只是借用名著中某些人物的名字或故事结构,而非真的在演绎 名著。正如某些日本评论家所称,游戏里的美少女上杉谦信并非历史人物,而只是“碰巧在 游戏世界里诞生的同名人物”而已。同样,情色游戏里的林黛玉形象固然与红楼梦里大相径 庭,但整个情色游戏又何尝是真的在“还原红楼世界”呢?

    恶搞在日本大行其道有其特定原因。日本动漫产业是一个庞大的金字塔架构,大量免费、廉 价动漫杂志是金字塔的塔基。这些杂志的稿源来自于广大动漫迷和业余作家,其创作的重要 灵感来源,正是对名著和流行作品的再演绎、再创作。许多人内心都不满原作品的故事情节 或人物命运,有一种冲动,希望自己能亲手改变这一切,或干脆亲身代替主人公投入情节之 中。这都导致了大量改作或同人作品(即根据漫画或动画原本的人物与设定,按照自己的喜 好与思路来编排故事的发展)的产生,恶搞其实不过是这些作品的夸张至极罢了。日本独特 的动漫产业链使得这种“异想天开”作品中的“佼佼者”得以从无数同类作品中脱颖而出, 成为正式的文化产品。
    恶搞他国名著并非日本独有,美国人同样把西游记人物折腾得十分不堪,周星驰的《大话西 游》又何尝不是恶搞?至于情色版红楼游戏,始作俑者恰是台湾厂商早在dos时代便推出 的《十二金钗》,那么,为什么唯独日本的恶搞影响这样大、这样恶劣?
    日本动漫、游戏的影响力太大。同样的恶搞,日本的能引起轩然大波,而其他国家的则往往 波澜不兴。比如前些日子,国内某动漫杂志也曾恶搞过日本“手办”(动漫造型),却远未 引起大的关注。中国对文化产业有较严格的控制,发表作品很难,情色作品更在严禁之列, 同人类作品大多只能在网络上传播。除了个别特例,恶搞更难以如日本那样堂皇地走向市场 。而且,由于历史因素,中日之间的问题容易变得敏感。同样是对《西游记》的恶搞,《大 话西游》能被接受,而日本的作品则难以被原谅。此外,有些人只注意到那些情色和低俗的 日本作品篡改了中国名著,却忽略了其他严肃作品同样如此(如《七龙珠》里的悟空父子) ,从而产生了某些偏激的联想。
    不可否认,日本动漫、游戏界对中国名著的某些恶搞,在品位上是低俗的,艺术上是低劣的 ,但必须认识到,这些作品在日本本土同样属于边缘产品,对其过于重视没有必要,以毒攻 毒地反过来恶搞日本名著更无意义。一来我们不必以低俗回敬低俗,二来也为中国法律、道 德所难容。
    还必须看到,中国名著之所以屡屡被日本文化产业界盯上,很大程度上因为我们自己对知识 产权保护不力。日本人虽习惯恶搞,却有其自身底线,但中国人并未对我们的孙悟空、林黛 玉等形象申请动漫或游戏专利,被屡屡采用甚至低俗恶搞,也就不足为奇了。据悉,日本某 些企业已抢注了“三国”、“水浒”、“西游”等商标。如果中国企业仍不自省,只是一味 抱怨日本人的恶搞低俗,那些让许多国人不愿看到的对中国古典名著的糟践仍难有根除的一 天。

    的糟践仍


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    عضو بارز
    • Mar 2005
    • 1903

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    • الذبابي
      عضو متميز

      • Jan 2005
      • 8749

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      • المهندسه نور
        عضو متميز
        • Dec 2005
        • 10421

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        • أيمن بغدادي
          عضو فعال
          • Dec 2004
          • 195

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          شكرا لك اخي الذبابي
          وهذي ترجمة النص للانجليزي:
          Japan botched his country famous work has resulted in ever greater turmoil and the repercussions. Green's original fairy-tale in the bloody depiction mounds? ? For many readers disgusted with the additions of China's more famous work aroused many people's dissatisfaction and indignation. "A Dream of Red Mansions", the famous Ju? ? The game was to create a Japanese woman into prostitution; "Journey to the West" in the Tang Seng, and the Monkey King in a television series in Japan talked Ren? ? Love. -- February 13: Recently, Japan's famous cultural structures of other countries has caused the storm and the growing repercussions 〠? Green's original fairy tale about the bloody offensive to many readers, the additions of China's more famous work aroused many people's dissatisfaction with mounds? ? Anger. For example, "A Dream of Red Mansions" Lin Daiyu in the game was to create a Japanese woman into prostitution; "Journey to the West" in the Tang mounds? ? Even in Japan and the Monkey King in a television drama about the love; "Romance of the Three Kingdoms" is even more unfortunate, and by numerous *** cartoon originated? ? Color games taken when materials not said that, in the upcoming visit, "Love Kyi unparalleled", simply from the Sun Quan Liu Bei Guan Yu Zhang Fei Ren? ? Cao Dong, all the women were portrayed as position the image. Things happened in the end is what? Faced with the botched I䠠Japanese? ? Is it going to do?
          What is inadequate

          Botched term originated in Japan, the original word "kuso" meaning "stool." In additions to appear, kuso not a? The single engage in evil, but on the idols and the classical plot of subversion, remodeling, through one of the people familiar with the Ju? ? The incident re-interpret, re-interpret or re-arranged destiny, in order to achieve the purpose of attracting readers.

          Because of this, the target is necessarily inadequate classic, the book, celebrities, hot and the public is already familiar mounds? ? Interesting things. The most common structures and the market is selling against the mainstream cultural products. Because of the circumstances of these products and䠠? ? Of familiar, the broad area of concern, botched up a good mind to understand Onlookers funny, it is easy to a Gun star. If we do not take these When䠠? ? The object structures, can produce the desired results. Often cited as an example of additions to the brush mustache Tim inevitable䠠? ? The "Mona Lisa" and is not an ordinary flower paintings.
          The market, so their cartoon, games, audio-video products, often from other countries need the culture absorbed mounds? ? Materials. Green fairy tale from the Irish folk legends, from the United States cowboy to Greek mythology, from ancient legend to science fiction stories ? ? Japanese cultural products are very common theme. Famous as the glorious game, we used a lot of Chinese, Western Europe and US mounds? ? The background scripts and personalities. Even the title of the classic Japanese film was not spared serious, such as Kurosawa's masterpiece "chaos" beacons? ? Stripping from the Shakespeare, "King Lear" story framework.

          Since the theme of the mainstream products often foreign masterpiece classics, and they object to the inadequate natural products Ren? ? No exceptions. Famous Japanese cartoon aimed at the Chinese have a long history in the cartoon master depicts the 1950s to launch the "Eclipse? The Monkey King. " Additions of "victim" also is not limited only to the Chinese classical novel: Greek and Roman epic, the gods were evil Ren? ? The game into erotica cartoon protagonists are commonplace. Japanese history, the heroes who were not spared: It is said that privacy seriously Ju? ? Warring States "military god" Uesugi Kenshin United States was portrayed as a girl has not returned to the two back; The famous shrine equally inevitably Min? ? Japan has distorted the latest games and even the devil were molested male. As for the "Tale of Genji" from favor, it is precisely because it was leaking? ? A large number of ambiguous description, let additions to lose the "imagination and creativity space."

          We have to understand that these structures are usually only used in the famous names of certain characters or story structure, Min? ? Non-really in the interpretation of the famous. As some Japanese critics alleged, games, the US girls Uesugi Kenshin not historical figures, Min? ? Only "in the game world happen to the birth of the same name personalities." Similarly, erotica Lin Daiyu image of the game, of course, and Ju? ? House dreams of difference, but is it the *** game is really in a "resurrection red chamber world"?

          Additions popularity in Japan has its specific reasons. Japanese cartoon industry is a huge pyramid structure ? ? A large number of free, cheap cartoon magazine is pyramid Taki. Which is the source of these magazines comes from the vast number of kicks and amateur writer ? ? Its an important source of inspiration for creativity, it is famous and popular works on the re-interpret, re-creation. Many people are dissatisfied with the original䠠heart? ? Goods story or characters destiny, there is a impulse personally hope that he can change all this, or simply replace the main䠠person? ? The circumstances of the public input. All this led to a lot of my colleagues works or conversion (that is, in accordance with the original comic book or animated characters and settings ? ? According to its own preferences and ideas in posting the story development) have, but these structures actually works extremely exaggerated Ju? ? The. Japan's unique cartoon industrial chain makes this kind of "wishful thinking" in the works "leader" has been made from countless similar mounds? ? China to become the official cultural products.
          His country is not famous structures unique to Japan, the same Americans who struggles to Journey to the West was very bad Zhou Ren? ? Chi's "All About West" is it not botched? As for the *** game version of the Red Chamber, and is the initiator of Taiwan manufacturers as early as dos Ren? ? Generation will launch "the 12 hairpin," then why Only Japan's additions such a big impact, so bad?
          Japanese manga, games too much influence. The same additions, caused uproar in Japan can and its䠠? ? Countries are often waves can not. For example, recently, a domestic cartoon magazines have botched Japan "hand Office" (cartoon originated? ? Type), it is far from aroused great concern. China's cultural industry more strictly controlled, published works hard, erotica works Ren? ? In strictly prohibited list, with the majority of humanity can only work on the transmission network. Apart from a few exceptions, such as Japan botched more difficult as beacons? ? Imperial to move toward the market. Moreover, due to historical factors, the issue between China and Japan to become sensitive. Similarly the "Journey to the West㠠? ? The additions, "All About West" can be accepted, and the Japanese works it is difficult to be forgiven. Moreover, some people only Noting that䠠? ? Erotica and vulgar distortion of Japanese works of the Chinese novel, but overlooked the same is true for other serious works (such as "epic" originated? ? The Wukong father and son), resulting in some extreme Lenovo.
          Undeniably, the Japanese cartoon, the game industry to China some famous structures in the grade is vulgar, Min? ? The operation is poor, but we must recognize that these works in the native land belonging to the same edge products, their attention not too Ren? ? Necessary, too exhausting and anti - more additions to the famous Japanese meaningless. First we need not to vulgar answered vulgar, and secondly also䠠? ? China's laws, morals can hardly contain.
          It should also be noted that China has repeatedly been the famous Japanese culture industry locked, to a large extent because Ren? ? Themselves inadequate protection of intellectual property rights. Although the Japanese habit of additions, there are their own bottom line, but the Chinese are not on our Ju? ? Monkey King, Lin Daiyu and other image applications for patents cartoon or game was often used even vulgar additions, is not surprising㠠? ? It is learned that some Japanese enterprises have registered the "Three Kingdoms" , "All Men Are Brothers" and "West" and other trademarks. If Chinese enterprises still Min? ? Province, but we complain that the Japanese botched vulgarity, which many people do not want to see the Chinese classical novel of insulting䠠? ? Difficult to eradicate one day.

          The insulting still

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          • الذبابي
            عضو متميز

            • Jan 2005
            • 8749

            #6
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            • منثول
              عضو متألق
              • Nov 2004
              • 3045

              #7
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              • عاشق عنود
                عضو متألق
                • Jul 2007
                • 3797

                #8
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                  • Aug 2007
                  • 1440

                  #9
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